into that economy, certainly. as the handwriting has appeared on the walls, president obama continues to inch forward. so, now the die is cast, right? he is going to go? >> by the time that people see this it may well have been announced already. this has been a very tricky problem for the obama administration and the bush administration. egypt is our closest ally in the arab world. a big, strong military that matters to us. it is vital for defense in that part of the world. we tread gingerly when it comes to egypt. in the end it is a mistake to think that this is about us. there has been a lot of criticism against president obama in the last week. why did he not move quicker? as if this is our problem. and it is not our problem. in the end of this has to be authentically egypt's creation. this history has to be written by egyptian hands. if it is not, if we are seen as pushing the process, it will be illegitimate. i think that reticence on the part of washington, although some people would like to see as agitating full time for human-rights, is the right course. >> does it disappoint you at

the country, and it is not going to change until the castro brothers are gone. >> president obama feels differently. there is a republican point of view and a democrat point of view. he is trying the philosophy that says if you show people what freedom is, perhaps they will respond. and then what we have said as republicans is look, anything you do to help the regime will go into the castros' pockets. they are buying more planes, tanks, and so on. the important thing is whatever president obama does it leads to the freedom of cuba. i was reading this morning how little they know about what is going on in egypt. >> that was in my mind. let me take a little break. carlos gutierrez is our guest. former secretary of commerce under president george bush, former president and ceo of the kellogg co., founder of the global political strategies, which is a division of apco. that is a big global communications firm. he just call me -- the vice chair of the client group for citigroup. sit tight. back on the other side. "this is america." >> "this is america" is made possible by -- the national edu

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